Remember, the following are all scams. Obviously, do not visit them.
oink.cx.la is still up
oink.we.bs is dead
oink.s4u.0lx.net> is dead
oink.pytalhost.com is dead
oink.pms.cc is dead
savy.ath.cx/OiNK/ is dead
oink.6x.to is up
Again, please don't be stupid enough to give money to that scam.
As predicted, November 1st came and went, and they're still making excuses and asking for money.
edit: For those still confused on how to get into IRC...
1. Download and install an IRC client of your choice (common choices are xchat for linux, xchat aqua for Mac, and mIRC for windows.)
2. Connect to irc://irc.p2p-network.net.
3. Type /msg nickserv register yourpassword your@email
4. Type /join #oink
5. Revel in the intelligent discussion we have going, for example:
Paine> Someone say something stupid
asrivat> something stupid.
edit 2: For the tech smarts
- SSL is on port 7000
- vhosts are available in #vhosts
NoOneButMe> #vhosts vhosts are only temporary
NoOneButMe> Might be worth mentioning that?
- hostnames are partially spoofed automatically.
edit 3: A lot of people are asking about http://waffles.fm
A few of it's owners (at least, they claimed to be) have contacted me via IRC and said it's going to be a new tracker. It's not 'endorsed' by us, however it doesn't look like a scam.
It's not really much of a scam if it doesn't ask for money ;)
EDIT 4: .cx.la and waffles.fm are not the same site
They just both happened to pick a November 1st release date. It's pretty obvious that the scamsite is now going to use it as their "final destination" on November 1st too, though.
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Or they'll just point to an already established site and pretend the money went to the site when it's really lining their pockets.
And if not?
Sorry if it's been asked before, but I was curious if, in case Alan has to pay a fine, people will be able to help him pay for it? I mean like giving him some money to be able to pay his fine?
I've always liked him a lot and I feel very bad for what has happened to him :S
nissa -- we'll cross those bridges if we come to them.
Don't these sites amount to fraud? Where's the police when you need them?? Oh yeah, sorry, I forgot...bit busy at the moment aren't they.
Thanks, just wanted to know if something like that would happen if it would be posted here. So I need what to keep my eye on :)
I really want to help him out if needed :) Thanks!
Thanks for the reminder and the quick scorecard re: the scam sites, paine.
The twats behind .cx .la have been busy spamming every forum they can find (as you know) so it pays to point this out should you see their spam elsewhere. At the very least, they've had to work harder for their ill-gotten gains. I see their site has improved somewhat from laughable to barely presentable.
These scam sites crack me up how full of shit they are. Now they claim to have customized their own utorrent, a program that has been closed source from day 0. And available on Macs too!
Here are my predictions for Nov 1:
a) a log in form will be displayed
b) all user/pass (real or not) combos will be invalid and won't work
c) no new accounts will even be ostensibly allowed
d) the owners will proclaim that thousands of ex-oinkers are having an orgy of torrented goodness and anyone with invalidated accounts is obviously a industry spy
e) a few hours into the opening day, a message will proclaim that the servers are buckling under the pressure and they need more money asap!
as a mac user, i personally recommend colloquy, though xchat aqua works. just my 2 cents.
~violin624
agreed about colloquy
How can people deserve to be involved with OiNK in the first place if they can't figure out how to use IRC?
No offense.
I got into the IRC fine last night, but when I try to log in this morning, I'm met with the message "#oink unable to join channel (address is banned)"
Who do I have to pay off to get back in?
I've noticed that .cx .la have improved the wording on their website, as well. Quit pointing out its flaws! You are only helping these scammers. They are obviously reading comments posted.
I'm interested to see what happens on the 1st. There will be an intricate mechanism in place no doubt to fool the noobs.
By now, the word should be out about this though. Keep it up, Paine!
from the Memorial blog:
"Anonymous said...
ex-mod paine is a sad, fat and lazy procrastinator who was kicked from oink and who trys to make a living now by selling stolen oink tshirts he is a fraudster and thief dont believe his lies the only real thing as said by TooMuchTime and Oink is oink.cx.la
October 28, 2007 3:12 PM"
lolz...
i want to know how much bail money oink had to put up =)
Of the three that are still up, they are apparently all being run by the same group of people. I wouldn't be surprised if they were affiliated with the likes of Media-Defender. I've seen the miivi.com "experiment" and this feels very similar. It doesn't take too much imagination to figure out the best time to scam ex-OiNK users is now amid the chaos while they're all searching for a replacement. It's a shame we won't be able to warn them all before they get duped by it.
Hilarious how the site(s) referenced here have deleted their claim to have developed a 100% encrypted bit torrent client. I was really looking forward to using that. ;-p
they now appear in the search results at the oink.cd google link as well.
Who the hell keeps donating to these sites!!??
I would suggest ignoring the #oink irc channel. Someone gave the wrong people halfops.
sorry if this is of topic or whatever but I have been dieing to ask this question.
has oink or other mods to your knowledge been in contact with TMT.
I know its going around everywhere that he will never be herd from again.
also, if and when oink puts up a donation to relaunch the site... he and other mods could get the money not only get bigger and better serves than before but even a round of drinks for every single oinker. most people are just dieing to donate! there is just so much happening with no real concrete answers as to when and if oink the site will return. my I say you paine are the only one holding me and many others together and I thank you for that.
Thanks paine for all you do:)
Kinda ironic that the scammer site got a hold of a few admin's names. I t looks pretty convincing right now, and thats the scary part.
Oh, its Gooose BTW
Paine, do you have any thoughts on waffles.fm ?
Just so you guys know, waffles.fm has opened.
Aka O2, the thing a couple of silly geese bashed during the last couple of days.
The language pf the guys sounds the same as the one that get caught (famous forum thread) trading. Do not remember his name,
Any word on whether Waffles.fm is legit? The site is worded plainly, but IMO the burden is on Oink's successor to go out of its way to prove that it's not a honeytrap for ex-oinkers.
black hoodies! black hoodies! black hoodies! black hoodies! black hoodies! black hoodies! black hoodies! black hoodies!
please?
:-D
cafepress don't do black hoodies, otherwise I'd have bought one for myself. :(
You probably hate these questions, but: any take on what.cd? legit?
what.cd seems to be gaining popularity, but it's not "official".
"i want to know how much bail money oink had to put up =)"
None.
So what is this "surprise" on the 1st going to be?
Did anybody get into What.cd before they closed registration? Just checked and now you need an invite. I was wondering if anybody had an comments on the site??
From what.cd:
We're being hit by a distributed denial of service attack. Please bear with us while we attempt to resolve this issue.
I'm not in like Flint… (>.<)
What.CD is ok, but needs improvement. The search is still very basic, and the server can barely handle the ~3000 users they have right now. Still, it has potential.
Though, if waffles.fm turns out to be semi-official, I don't doubt many will jump ship and join waffles instead.
what.cd is going very well at the moment. There are still a number of bugs that need to be worked out, and now they're one less admin, it's going to be longer to do so.
Is it just me or is this guy crazy for registering it in his own name?
http://www.dot.fm/query_whois.cfm?domain=waffles&tld=fm
Ah, so on the 1st of November, you're just go to attempt to ddos those sites, again, and fail, again.
HUR GOOD IDEAR.
okay, 80 minutes before the BIG unveil and waffles.cd still has no other files uploaded to their public directory.
Is this a big nothing?
FUCK.. i guess i'm stupid then. I just sent some fucker 7$. I was never an oink user, however I thought it good to support its service. Too bad ended supporting some asshole.
What's going on with waffles???
"We're getting DDoS'd right now. You'll be enjoying your waffles shortly, don't worry"
Hate to sound like a noobie but what is DDoS-ing?
The fall of Oink distroyed me!!
Anyone else here from the Erol forum?
For whoever asked about DDos:
Google is your friend - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service_attack
Hey, you were asking what DDOS'ing was?
its means in short, Denial of Service. it can take down web pages anywhere from a few minutes to several days depending on how hard they're getting DDOS'ed and how lazy their tech support staff are ;D
DDoS-ing;
Denial-of-service attack
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service_attack
Best regards
Didge
denial of service. they're back up now, but say that they are reviewing security measures before they re-open
RIP Oink....With all due respect if waffles is a third as good as Oink, it's still going to be the best....I'm checking into rehab tonight, I'll be back in 30-60 days!
my question is....
how are people who are totally out of the loop but maintained wicked ratios and upped a lot on oink going to get some waffles....???
yo if anyone has waffles.cd invites, please send me to elfilou aatt gmail ddoott com.
Thanks!
I was an avid Oink supporter and donor and seeder and leecher!
Can someone please invite me! I was a relatively new oink user with a .7 ratio and almost 5 Gigs uploaded. robert_ingalls@hotmail.com
I'm concerned that waffles.fm could be some sort of interpol honeypot. Can you do anything to confirm its safety?
The problem for old oink-ers who are out of the loop is getting invites to all these new wannabes. Wish there was some way to prove you had an oink account before to get a new invite, but sadly I doubt there's any way.
Oh well, i guess i'll just have to wait another 6 months before someone sends me an invite.
what.cd is legit and its community looks friendlier than waffles atm imho.
i got in before they hit the 8k limit and they say that a new server will be online around nov 6. that's when they're gonna let more people in, as right now the current server is overloaded like hell.
Agree with rohan. If you're somebody that never used the IRC channel (like me)it means you're completely cut off from the user base.
From the waffles.fm invite page.
Note, until we upgrade our hardware (in a day, possibly two) your invite counter will read zero. When we get new hardware, every user will have their total invites set to 3 (not 3 on their current total). This is because we had some glitches which meant people signed up but their account was never created. This issue should be resolved.
You can't replace OiNK, but waffles i feel is gonna try real hard to.
Dear god yes. It's going to take forever before I get an invite - just like with oink.
you said it. I was so excited when I finally got my ratio over 3, and now it's gone. I went to look for a calendar application, and I found myself lost. I'm such a tool.
Oink was fun but it's nice to leave Transmission off for once. I had been seeding 200+ torrents for months, and it's nice to take a break.
Oh, and NEVER FORGET
-herograw
Yeah, it's a massive shame Oink is no more. I'd invited a lot of friends to Oink over the years I'd been a member, but only me and one other mate had manage to keep our ratios in tip top shape. Was a member of Oink for years and can't remeber how I got an invite. Maybe years ago, when Oink first started you didn't need invited. Just remember the good times, something else, (not as good as Oink), will pop up, eventually.
oink was great in everyway music is a spiritual need and shouldn't be that expensive specially because those companies who hunt down downloaders don't realize:
a) most of those downloaders goes to the artists concert!
b) they don't even represent one decent musician (brittney spears and etc. doesn't count as musician at all...)
c) that not everything is involved with money radiohead showed that music and not merchendising will bring you more fans let the listners decide...
so oink guys(admins and comunity) wherever and whomever you are thank you I wish you luck at whatever you may do and music is human soul without it we aren't worth alot
Someone has to report these guys to their local municipal authorities. I don't like police when it comes to gray areas, but these guys are obviously using the oink name for personal gain, and I can't express how wrong that is, and how pissed off i am. If i wasn't as lazy as I am, I would trace these guys back through proxies and firewalls, and personally walk into their crib with a .22, some bleach and then proceed to make some music.
I really miss you all. Oink was the nicest place to be. I gave a friend of mine a disk to check out and he really dug it. Next thing I know I get an e-mail and an invitation to Oink. Man, I can't tell you how excited I was to discover the proverbial gold mine of music at my fingertips and whim. Now, almost every other site has closed registration and people selling memberships on e-bay. Really miss my Oink. You guys were the best. Is there any place out there even remotely close to pink?
What is on Waffles.fm? What do they specialize in? Music, movies, games?
Waffles.fm and what.cd bare both general music trackers. People are rushing to them thinking that they will be the Oink. Both of those sites are closed or invite only at the moment. The truth is the only sure way to tell which site will be the next Oink is when that site becomes the next Oink. Theres alot more quality material out there thanks to Oink seeders and if many of these trackers start really let there users start uploading then the ball may begin to roll. Unfortunately for many of the music trackers out there the uploading rights are controled by the admins or special people designated to be uploaders. IMO thats what really got the ball rolling for Oink.
As usual I spelt my name wrong, it should be Hotemetoot.
Some time past and I joined under a different name[poppylover] the memorial site.
Good to see we got something new, now a way to get in would be nice.
If you need any money for helping to pay servers let me know guys because as I understand you are already stretching the limit.
I'm more than willing to help you out.
I too wish there was a way to prove you were a member of oink. I was a member from before it even turned invite. Never had a ratio below 1. Ah well what can ya do.
meetoo
i think "oink" is changing the way people use media
i wouldn't be surprised if people found ways to make money off music/software while giving it away for free. as a musician that's how I'd like to have it be... all my music released for free and i'm still living rich. i guess radiohead is paving the way for that one, eh?
-art
I agree. I wish there was a method to verify if a person was a legitmate Oink member.
I was also an Oink member (before it was invite only) and maintained a good ratio through the years.
I sure wish these new invite only trackers can verify Oink members and give us a chance to join.
I as well was an oink member and am at a loss now. If anyone has invites jen_ownz_me at yahoo dot com.
At the Oink site it says 10/23 Never Forget...Yet those of us who were long time Oink members (November of 2005 myself) who seeded and donated to help get the site to where it was on 10/23 have been left on the side of the road! I'm not supposed to forget but have in turn been forgotten. What's the gig with Waffles anyway? How many members are there any why is it already invite only? It just doesn't seem fair for us long time supporters.
You never really appreciate something untill you lose it :(
Thanks to every exoinker, it was pleasure to share with you.
If someone wants to invite a cut-off friend: Your help would be greatly appreciated!
wtnurm aatt utu dooot fi
as a member of oink for the past couple of years i also wish there was a way for oink members to join one of the "better" new sites, but since there probably won't be i guess i'll have to sit back and wait.
never forget
oh god, nothing can never never replace oink in my heart,i feel empty since this fucking day, but i understand that this waffles.fm might be something good indeed.
How should i prove that i was a member of oink pink palace and get an invite please please?
you people are all saying the same thing. obviously whining about it isn't helping. In the meantime why don't you actually listen to the 100gb of music you've downloaded over the last 3 years.
I need a whaffles.fm invite. I give invite to libble.com in exchange.
mail me at santilizon aaat ggggmmmaaaiillll dot coooommm
I miss oink....although I was quite new to the whole thing, and couldn't quite get round the uploading thingy, I did my fair share of seeding.
It was soo, out of the blue.
I guess the oink community are have to disperse out to the other sites now. I found oink the most pleasurable site to be on, no snide comments from know-it-alls, or cursing, just a good, all round welcoming community.
It shall be missed....
After downloading a couple oldies I had to have, the first thing I downloaded is the 24GB Adobe CS3 master collection. I was almost at 1 when they shut it down. I got my oink invite from inviteshare. A couple people should let the inviteshare folks know that oink is shut down and waffles.fm and what.cd need invite pages. I did, but a couple other people won't hurt
I was also a loyal oinker who had a share ratio of 2.5 before it disappeared. Oink has lead me to purchase more albums and books then I had ever purchased in the past. It also lead me to download some absolutely crappy music that anyone would be upset on spending $15 on. Thank you for enriching my life and broadening my horizons Oink. See you all again in the future I'm sure.
This one goes to the guy above namely, "anonymous":
"apparently ,my dear, you have never been on oink" it is obvious
Well I'm stuck with 11263 .mp3 files that I have downloaded from oink over the past two/three years.
I'm looking to seed on either of the trackers would anyone be interested in giving me an invite?
Best regards
Charlie
how does a former oink member get an invite to waffles.fm bc i want one
I was on Oink before they started the invitations. I guess its true... you dont realize what you have until its gone.
Would appreciate an invite to either site, really.
Was on OiNK under 'sjunaz', had about 250 gigs uploaded, and 20 odd down.
Would appreciate the gesture.
how can loyal ex-oinkers get involved with waffles.fm or what.cd? a new invitation might be hard to come by these days . . .
: (
i had 300tb uploaded and 2mb downloaded on oink....looking for invite to waffles plz!
hello all, yeah i was an ex.oinker but im not gonna give the whole thing that i uploaded, donated yadda yadda, i am just an ex oinker, i would like to say some things, first and foremost thanks to these types of sites that encourage the utmost forms of sharing and the fact that we should all share our wealths and cultures across the board, number two these types of sites always come and go, thats how it works, and last but not least, in many ways, lets cut out the elitism that seems to exist in some of these sites, including oink sometimes, we need to reach out and let everyone in who wants to be a part of, some people are less fortunate than others, i would suggest that instead of an invite, there would be a mandatory first upload, as in, you would be required at these sites to upload 2-3 good albums, programs, or films not already on the site of course, that way the people wanting to get a membership would be able to prove that they are willing to share, its just an idea, excuse my english skills
demonoid is gone now too..ahhhhhh
I'm an ex-Oink member and am very sad that this has happend. I hope it can return to it's former self and we can resume our community.
To Anonymous 09 November 2007 11:51
As to not having invites...
These sites aren't just for sharing resourses they are also communities. And as a member of these communities you tend to be a little protective of each other.
There needs to be some measure of control over who joins these communities (not just wether they share or not) sharing information may be what initially draws people to these sites but it usually turns into somehting more as the people get to know each other.
I for one am all for invites to contol who roams the community halls.
I have made long time friends from around the world in these communities.
When something happends to them it means more to me than just a sharing site.. you can go anywhere to get files... friends are harder to come by.
I would go there even if there was no sharing.
Ok first of all. Get a life. These are file sharing sites and that's all. You should go out more often. Don't get on here with your self righteous blah blah blah. Community my ass. It's a place where everyone can get what they want while giving at the same time. A mere symbiotic relationship.
Amen!
To get a real ball rolling, just ignore all those invite-only and ratio sites. Just create torrents for all the crap you have on your disks and up them to all open trackers, like Pirate Bay. If you're really such "share with the world" people you claim to be then the seeder/leecher ratio won't bother you.
Oink is dead. So is Demonoid. There will never be anything like them. So just start seeding like crazy everywhere else, instead of whining about them.
You make me mad guy,this is not the same thing don't you understand ?have you ever been on oink? probably not
RIP Oink =( Why o why did they do this to us?! I am truly sad. Good luck Alan! BTW, I had a 1.38 ratio and had upped over 100 gigs and am itching to continue my addiction. Could someone PLEASE send me an invite to another site?!!!
tha-tracker is the new oink
Firefox users can help get these scam sites listed as forgeries; go to the site, click Help > Report Web Forgery...
(Note that if you have TinyMenu enabled, you will need to disable it.)
Hopefully someone will read this.. XD
I still have E-mails from Oink in my inbox proving that I was an Oink Power User, I guess I could forward these emails to the Administrators of Waffles.fm and What.cd proving this and then ask them to sign me up with the same user name and e-mail.
However I don't really trust them yet as according to the bastards that shut down Oink (IFPI, BPI, Cleveland [U.K.] police and the Fiscal Investigation Unit of the Dutch police) "A criminal investigation continues into the identities and activities of the site's users"
How can we be sure this is not a "HoneyPot" trap set up to screw us?
How can i tell if a torrent site is simply collecting ip adds for XXAA? e.g. is isohunt legit or what? i know a few people who still use that...
I still use isohunt. Although, not for music.
I have to say that I am beginning to think along the lines of the "honeypot trap" myself. Has anyone actually gotten an account with waffles.fm or what.cd?
The reason I am starting to worry is that I originally read that the oink domains were directed to pirate bay nameservers which is not the case. oink.cd has an American nameserver... Also, boink.cd which is said to be a pirate bay initiative doesn't even use pirate bay nameservers.
In short it seems that most sources stating that waffles.fm and what.cd as replacements could actually be the authorities' sites. Using proof of oink membership as a way in seems like the perfect way to build cases against users..
Does anyone have a "reliable" source source that these sites are what they say they are?
Wow the site is down, i was away for some time and just checked it as someone said its down, damn and there it is down -__-
Well i was a member not for a long time but enjoyed it, so many music to chose from *drools* lol., anyway i would be a happy camper on this new site waffles if someone has a invite to spare - toxicfilter at gmail dot com, thanks. I was DigitalTT on oink.me/cd just for the record lol. Peace
someones gotta know how to get a foot in the door at one of these sites other than begging for an invite that will more than likely never come...its seemimng an impossible feat to get in
It shouldn't be hard for some Brits and Germans to verify this "person's" information associated with the alleged scam site oink.cx.la ...
Registrant Name:Thomas Kutsch
Registrant Organization:Ontiga Limited
Registrant Street1:69 Great Hampton Street
Registrant City:Birmingham
Registrant State/Province:B18 6EW
Registrant Postal Code:B18 6EW
Registrant Country:GB
Registrant Phone:+49.1805009448
Registrant Email:info@m-i-s.info
and ...
person: Thomas Kutsch
address: Eylauer Str. 10
address: 10965 Berlin
e-mail: thomator@gmx.net
phone: +49 3329 615936
fax-no: +49 3329 615936
notify: ripe-mntner@hetzner.de
mnt-by: HOS-GUN
nic-hdl: TK2333-RIPE
changed: ronny.biering@hetzner.de 20051024
source: RIPE
It is very curious why this person is a registrant in Britain and has additional WHOIS information referencing Berlin. The domain oink.cx.la traceroutes to Germany, not Britain.
I would agree it's a scam. I wish someone could get FACE information on this person/entity or Interpol Agent.
Are you all for real???? OMG!!!!
Whine Whine!! "I want an invite" "I loved Oink and uploaded this much ... so I want an invite"
And all of you who keep coming on here and telling where you go to get your music and stuff are really smart... NOT!!
Do you think the bad guys are not reading your posts? You idiots!
Why don't you just go to your site and copy everyones IPs and send it to the bad guys so they can shut down your site too!!
I'll bet it is appreciated by everyone at your local download spot that you tell on them.
You guys are all users! You don't care who goes down in flames just as long as you get your downloads.
QUIT YOUR FUCKING WHINING!!!!
If someones want you to be invited you will get asked... otherwise shut up!
But as careless as you people seem to be with information.. I don't think I would invite anyone from this blog!
waffles.fm is canadian hosted by Canaca-com Inc.
um..wasn't it the canadian's that were up in arms over oink and demonoid?? i wouldn't trust it.
I was gonna help out, but TorrentLeech shut off the invite system indefinitely. Sorry guys.
both WAFFLES & WHAT suck...stop complaining my ass, i was rocking oink before you needed an invite...now this...bs, fuck them. long live oink. come on, who the fuck has these invites anyway...are they worth more then gold...they were given to a select group of people...why, who new this was going to happen? open the flood gates...invite only sucks. they suck...again, fuck them.
I still look at Oink everyday - just to see if it has come back. Sigh.
There are quite a few trolls in this thread (hi Robert!), but they aren't very good at it.
I look at oink every day too. Ah. What good is the interweb anymore? :(
me too...
well Im riding high upon a deep depression since the fatty pink pig is asleep sucking on his mother's pig tits... is there someone who can help me bring back happyness to my life?
I don't mean to be the selfish bastard here, but does anyone have any update on the "investigation into the identies of the users"
Odds are nothing will come of those investigations, the information is just too vast. And if they do attack anybody from the site, it will be the people who uploaded the most/ longest; but it isn't likely.
Or those uploading "scene" and pre-releases, probably
i i have an account with waffles and while I don't agree with the over-exclusivity since it's leading to a lot of seeding and next-to-no-leeching, I can attest that it's legitimate. You need to have 5GB up and 5GB down to get ONE invite. It's pretty ridiculous.
I had a couple of what invites as well, but those went bye-bye pretty quickly.
how much money do i need to donate to the fund on oinks site to get it back up? what will it take? give me a usd amount and it will be paid.
Hey!!
What sites do you recommend for torrents? And how can I get an invite to places like waffles? I'm lost without OiNK!
Thanks!
This is disgraceful.
God the music industry makes me laugh.
To any 'officials' reading this post.
You are lame.
Show some respect for artistic expression.
RIP Oink.
How I've missed you oink!
I hope the new year's spirit 'll bring you back. We are lost without you
Come back oink, nobody never,ever should replace you, no site no person,we've missed you
I asked someone in an aim chat room for an oink invite and they were nice enough to give me 1. since then i was happy as can be. i wish i had my old HDs still so i can put my music on my 30gig ipod i got 2 maybe 3 yrs ago..i cannot live with out my damn ipod i need my music lol and now im stick with shittier sites :(
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