Thursday, 25 October 2007

Pedro and Keith

Most of you probably know this already: http://oink.cd/index2.html

Please do not interpret too much into this. Nobody can say who those two people are. My personal guess would be that Pedro is probably someone in the police department, who is halfway capable of creating a website. And Keith is some sort of investigator? As said, nobody can say for sure. Try not to involve yourselves in unnecessary speculations in this matter, which only leads to more panic among the users. Thank you.

There is no reason to believe that Pedro was some sort of undercover person,
and that he is the one responsible for getting the site shutdown.

In case the index2.html has been removed by now, here is a screenshot.

46 comments:

Anonymous said...

My guess is the email was recieved in Microsoft Outlook, he hit reply, then save as web page. And found himself in the grassy knoll. On an island with special healing properties.

Anonymous said...

I still find it rather curious that the IPFI is allowed to just "hijack" the domain and use it for their own purposes, that just seems utterly wrong. I am also not quite sure why the ISP is playing along on this one, sure they lost their server, but why do they post the notice? There is no legal requirement, much less while there is police involvement.

Strange really.

zaP said...

I doubt the hosting provider put that notice there, it was more likely a mistake by the authorities.

Anonymous said...

http://mediadefender-defenders.com/msg03891.html

daniel said...

haha holy shit, that media defender note:

"Pedro Cortez

MediaDefender, Inc."

Anonymous said...

i know that some top uploaders are already out there on the hunt for that fag!

theG. said...

Seems like those MediaDefender guys like free stuff too:

Title: Free CDs
Y'all,

On the AD side, in front of Bobby, Brad, Joe and Joe's infamous candy bucket, there are a couple dozen CDs and DVDs totally up for grabs. There's some pop, rock, rap, r&b, and more. It's totally free, so help yourselves.

Thanks,
Ben


http://mediadefender-defenders.com/threads.html#00001 == fun!

Jeremy said...

Mi llamo Pedro and I like to freak

Anonymous said...

Holy shit demonoids next i bet.

Anonymous said...

media defender also have a "leak alert"
service

i notice in the media reports on the oink shutdown that "leaked albums" were mentioned heavily.

http://www.mediadefender.com/antipiracy.html

Sean said...

dont vote for pedro

Anonymous said...

> I doubt the hosting provider put
> that notice there, it was more
> likely a mistake by the
> authorities.

The servers were confiscated and taken away by the authorities to be "analyzed", so you can assume that the physical server doesn't reside at that address anymore.

Furthermore, the authorities would probably not put an IPFI logo up there, if anything it would be an official seal.

Nope, that's part of the way of trying to intimidate all former OiNKers and pretty much anybody else who heard about this evil file sharing thing.

I so hope it'll blow up in IPFIs face and maybe even have OiNK himself go after them for all the false accusations.

ex oink a lot said...

this is so much fun to read

http://mediadefender-defenders.com/threads.html#00001 == fun!

Anonymous said...

It's curious how the original pink heart favicon.ico was left there for awhile (it's gone now).

Why would they copy this over from the old server?

Weird.

zaP said...

I didnt say that it was still our server that resides there.

phunky said...

What happened to the irc channel I can't get it. Says I need a key.

Anonymous said...

^^ favicon was just cached in your browser

Anonymous said...

> I didnt say that it was still our server that resides
> there.

I get that, but why would the authorities care? They have no "hand" in announcing their intentions, if you investigate a crime you do this in quiet until you have all the facts they have nothing to gain by "warning" the users that they are about to go after them. The only one gaining is IPFI etc. who want to scare people to stop doing this darn Torrent thing.

Either way, hoping the best for OiNK and once the thing gets thrown out I hope he goes after IFPI etc. I hate bullies.

Anonymous said...

"It's curious how the original pink heart favicon.ico was left there for awhile (it's gone now).

Why would they copy this over from the old server?

Weird."

i think it was in your browser's cache.

sdr said...

I don't think Pedro was undercover. That's pretty silly.

I do know that I will eat his heart, however.

I will destroy him.

-sdr

Anonymous said...

Purely a paranoid suggestion, but you might wish to remove your oink.cd cookies before visiting the domain again. Assuming you had any.

Erin said...

Isn't the domain still owned by Oink? They shouldn't be allowed to just hijack it. And why would the ISP go along with it? They have no obligation to host that threatening message. This is BS.

Once this all blows over, you guys should sue them for stealing your webpage.

Anonymous said...

I would just like to thank you for putting this blog together & giving people some news & I would like to thank OiNK himself for making such a wonderful site & I hope everything works out great for him :)

I have personally been encouraging other oink users I know to put the opplove smilie in their sigs everywhere they visit online just as a little show of solidarity :)

http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/4523/opplovekp7.gif

Anonymous said...

my question to all those that are commenting on taking action for suing the authorities who hijacked the page. If i'm not mistaken the FBI posted something like this on ET. What's the difference between wht happened on ET and on Oink? (in terms of warning messages)

Jared said...

^^^
The difference is the IPFI and the BPI are not law enforcement agencies.

Jackson Glass said...

Is this legit:

http://oink2.no-ip.org/

Just wondering..

Anonymous said...

oink.cx.la is legit i think, an ex-admin said they have the old userdata and have a site up and running

zaP said...

No need to wonder. If it would be legit, you would have read about it here.

We cannot say much about the intensions of other people who are complete strangers to us, wanting to start a succesor to OiNK.

Anonymous said...

Do these people think they're above the law? Am I wrong, or do they go to they download/seed torrents, then accuse others of doing the same? They shut down a service that they themselves has used?

Last I checked, cops don't do meth when busting a drug dealer...

Chris said...

From http://www.mediadefender.com/antipiracy.html

Upon discovery, MediaDefender will download the leak and either send it or provide a secure ftp login for customers to sample the pirated material.

Yay, MediaDefender gets to participate in infringing behavior. So, if participating in a swarm of a copyrighted work is breaking the law in the U.S... then these asshats broke the law.

Anonymous said...

> Yay, MediaDefender gets to participate in
> infringing behavior. So, if participating in a swarm
> of a copyrighted work is breaking the law in the
> U.S... then these asshats broke the law.

Mediadefender probably has a clause in their contract that gives them "distribution" rights, unless they are completely retarded.

Anonymous said...

Keith Joplin is Head of Market research at the IPFI - may not be the same keith, but its a possibility

LLLLLLLLLLLOOOOLLLLLLLLL said...

keith and pedro are me homies.

okt said...

Don't you see?? This is why they were asking you all those questions about how to create a web site :)

Oh man . That would be ironic if they convinced you to put up that notice yourself :P

Disclaimer: I have no idea what oink is, never been a member, never downloaded a single piece of mp3, in fact, what is an mp3?

Anonymous said...

Well, MediaDefender e-mails also showed that they wanted their accounts to get a good ratio on oink and appear to be normal, participating accounts. I doubt they could get a good ratio without doing something illegal...

Anonymous said...

Might this be the Pedro of "Pedro's BTMusic" Tracker?
I read those comments of FlacInHell on torrentfreak
(torrentfreak.com/oinkcd-servers-raided-admin-arrested)

Laser_iCE said...

Ever thought maybe it's just a joke?

:o

nekostar said...

Anonymous said...

Do these people think they're above the law? Am I wrong, or do they go to they download/seed torrents, then accuse others of doing the same? They shut down a service that they themselves has used?

Last I checked, cops don't do meth when busting a drug dealer...

26 October 2007 05:48


dumbass... sure they do when undercover
and there are times when one is actually allowed to dl something lol
like when u own it - so you dont have to divx it yourself or something.... anyway......

Anonymous said...

@ nekostar

What the fuck?

Nick said...

It all sounds like entrapment to me.

Brice Timmons said...

Well, it can't really be entrapment. Entrapment requires that you induce someone to criminal activity. The logical argument for OiNK is that there is no criminal activity involved. And technically there's not. Of course, will a judge see it that way? In every jurisdiction in which they might prosecute or file suit? This area of law is really quite unevolved, at least in the U.S. I imagine the UK isn't far ahead, though probably a bit. Torrents present a unique legal problem, as we're all aware. Frankly, they simply give lie to the fallacy that "intellectual property" is "property" at all. One cannot "own" information in the conventional sense, merely own some artificially created privilege which only has as much value as one can enforce. Of course, torrents may finally push the big boys into exerting increasingly overt extortion. On the other side, a friend of mine who's a Viacom exec. is working on a project to utilize file sharing to their benefit. The theory is that by encouraging filesharing they can use more subtle methods of advertising to generate hit-based ad revenue. Give the music away, and sell product placement in the video. Put a "Coke" logo in the bottom corner of a "leaked" TV show, etc. Invert the old revenue models and filesharing and big biz can coexist just fine.

Disclaimer: I know nothing about filesharing, BT, or OiNK. Never used it, just love telecom law, love it love it love it.

Anonymous said...

http://mediadefender-defenders.com/msg02860.html

/bitchslap

RACHEL said...

irony.

Pedro said...

To my fellow MD employees,



The time has come for me to say, “Goodbye, MediaDefender”. I thank management for giving me the opportunity to work here and I thank all of you for making it a fun environment. I hope I have done the same for you all as well. I leave now with great memories and stories to share as I move forward with my career.



To the Torrent team….Good Luck and happy posting…



We can still keep in touch as I will still reside in the Santa Monica area…



Once again, Thank You and farewell my friends…….



714.383.1819

spankysemail@gmail.com



Pedro Cortez Jr.

Anonymous said...

I really belive this mediadefenders are guilty of file sharing themself, wouldent mind some one calling the authoritys :P

Gavin Aronsen said...

Uh, isn't that message satire of the original index2 message when the site was first shut down?